Wednesday, June 13, 2007

Late night Cake session

I'm playing as ~LiNkInPaRk~. heh.

poker is easy. step 1: flop nuts. step 2: get someone to go all in. step 3: money$.
#1

i hate how i played this.
#2

i don't really like how i played this either :/ i had kings here.
do i cb? do i fire on the turn when the ace pairs? i think i'm just turning my kings into a bluff. villain was capable of playing back at me, I could have just check called river.
#3

shortly after reading a 2p2 post on 3-betting light. ugh. i had small suited connectors that whiffed.
flop minraiser is a habitual calling station / donk.
#4

boring
#5

i actually kind of like my play here even though it looks pretty weak tight. i had QJo.
#6

this hand was WEIRD. i feel like i should have bet the turn. can't raise the river :(
#7

3 comments:

Andrew said...

1. I think his play was fucking atrocious unless he'd been playing like a TOTAL maniac. I never know how to play from the SB. How often do you c/r that rather than lead out? Do you lead out with middle pair shitty kicker?

2. Yeah, kinda ugly. What do you think's right here? Bet the flop, b/f the turn, c/f the river?

3. I dunno. I like it. You've gotta CB here and a turn check is like "here's the pot. No really. Take it. PLEASE" because even if he checks behind you're c/f'ing the river here I think (because it was an A). And the turn bet keeps any other pair, suited connectors and a ton of other crap he could have from bluffing you. If he's smart he might have even folded a better hand here.

4. Yeah. I think the only thing wrong is save the pf 3-bet for when a calling station hasn't already put any money in.

5. Raised TT UTG a few hands ago. Is 99 the cutoff? What sort of cards do you limp UTG?

6. I dunno. Calling station betting pot (AND getting a caller) makes the laydown pretty standard.

7. Was the turn check to induce a river bluff? I'd be worried about him catching something on the river and forcing me to call so I'd fire on the turn as well.

jsola said...

1. yeah, that guy had just sat down at the $50 max table with $20, so I figured he sucked. there's tons of players like that there, who buy in short stacked, wait for a decent hand (like his turned 2p here) and push in. usually they leave right after doubling up.

I pot a huge flopped hand in an unraised pot 100% of the time. with a pot this small, people will call me here all day with, like, ANYTHING. TP no kicker, flush draws, pair+gutshot type hands.

i suck at playing weaker hands OOP. normally when i have second pair i'm check-calling a flop bet and check-folding the turn, even though that suuuucks.

2. let's see... opponent in this hand was crappy but on the upper end of Cake players. I think I should have bet the flop, c/c the turn, and c/f (maaaaybe c/c against this guy) the river.

although i like b/f turn if i bet the flop and he calls me. seems like a great time to rep an ace.

3. yeah, that's true. turn check is ultra weak, might as well just take the pot down now.

i was a little worried he had an ace when he called my flop bet, but he'd been floating me a fair amount. when it paired on the turn i was like 90% sure i had the best hand but didn't really know how to proceed.

4. yeah, I shouldn't have even bothered c'bing after he cold calls my 3b pf. he ain't folding shit.

5. pf sucks, for real. I raise that like 90% of the time here but with the calling station behind me I thought it might be worth it to limp for set value since I'm definitely getting paid off by some random paired paint.

i'm never folding to that guy's flop bet. he raised a lot preflop and played really weak post flop so even if I don't have the best hand here there's a great chance I can take it away later. when he kept checking it down I figured there was no reason to bet, especially with the station still in the hand.

6. yeah, you're right. passive guys betting out is pretty scary.

7. this guy was raising light pf, so his range was pretty wide here. i was more worried about him having a ten and trying to trap, because I don't think I can call a turn raise. I was pretty committed to calling the river because of how weak I looked on the turn.

Andrew said...

>2. let's see... opponent in this hand was crappy but on the upper end
>of Cake players. I think I should have bet the flop, c/c the turn,
>and c/f (maaaaybe c/c against this guy) the river. although i like
>b/f turn if i bet the flop and he calls me. seems like a great time to rep an ace.

A c/c on the turn seems like a bad idea to me. If he was bluffing or if he has an ace you're screwed on the river. BEST case is he was bluffing and you both check down. But bluffing or not I'd say you're more than likely to face a river bet which means folding and throwing away that turn call. Or calling and being a total donk.

5. I know they're not observant but I think the "limp for set value UTG" argument is always flawed because anybody that's paying any attention can put you on a pretty narrow range (med/small pair, A with something lower than a Q (probably suited), maybe KQs?) and then when you hit and go crazy it should be a really easy lay down because you obviously have whatever you hit. I agree with the checking it down though.

7. I dunno, this guy is pretty agressive (from what I've seen the other hands) so I don't mind betting the turn and calling a raise. I think the TT on the flop *should* stops overpairs from c/r'ing the turn (from his point of view it'd turn his hand into a total bluff) so I'd call a turn c/r figuring he's gotta check the river with anything besides a T (or the made flush if it gets there). You can fold if he bets the river. If he's got the balls to c/r the turn with < 3-of-a-kind AND lead into you then he earned the pot.